1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 A special sightings investigation. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Nearly 30 years later, the search for UFO debris in Shag Harbor continues. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,400 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Will the truth be uncovered or has the government buried the facts, the Shag Harbor mystery? 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Then she was kidnapped and left in the desert to die, but somehow she survived. 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 The little spirit standing there. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 The guardian angel on the next sightings. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:43,000 A special sightings investigation. 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Nearly 30 years later, the search for UFO debris in Shag Harbor continues. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Will the truth be uncovered or has the facts been buried, the Shag Harbor mystery on sightings? 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,000 A special sightings investigation. 13 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Nearly 30 years later, the search for UFO debris in Shag Harbor continues on sightings. 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 16 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Unraveling the Shag Harbor mystery on the next sightings. 17 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:06,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 18 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:19,000 She saw the little spirit standing there. 19 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:29,000 The Shag Harbor mystery on the next sightings. 20 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:36,000 The Shag Harbor mystery on the next sightings. 21 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 22 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:49,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 23 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:59,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 24 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:09,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 25 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:19,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 26 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:29,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 27 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:39,000 On this edition of Sightings. 28 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Sightings returns to Colorado's Black Forest to help a terrified family resolve a frightening haunting. 29 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Whoa! You see it? 30 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 It's coming through right right here. 31 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 When three-year-old Sarah Skidmore disappeared for three days in the Arizona desert, 32 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,000 her parents and police knew the only thing that could save her would be a miracle. 33 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,000 I believe my sister, um, I was her angel. 34 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 We have a strong target, sir. 35 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Later, a sightings investigation continues in Canada with an expedition that searches for debris from a crashed UFO. 36 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:23,000 The man at the base had told me that it was probably the most intense thing next to the Cuban missile crisis. 37 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And has medical science gone too far in its attempt to farm body parts? 38 00:04:46,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 39 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,000 During a recent sightings ghost investigation in Black Forest, Colorado, 40 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:13,000 our team recorded bizarre noises, images and thermal imaging that pointed to the presence of an ethereal form. 41 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Now, that form is making its presence known in more concrete and threatening ways. 42 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Sightings correspondent Carla Wall traveled to Black Forest and found a family in fear. 43 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,000 The sweet smell of pine, a gentle breeze, a beautiful log cabin in the woods. 44 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:43,000 From the outside, there's no hint of the terror that's been experienced inside the Lee home in Black Forest, Colorado. 45 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,000 What is it? 46 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I wanna go away! 47 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Now, Steve Lee reports a bizarre physical manifestation of the haunting. 48 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 One morning, my head just started swelling up. 49 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 That's when they took me to the hospital and they did the cascades. 50 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,000 And the doctor said there was no bruise there, no cut or nothing. 51 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:15,000 So far, Steve and Beth Lee's search for an explanation has cost them their life savings and their peace of mind. 52 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Our initial sightings investigation confirmed that the haunting is real. 53 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,000 There were the anomalous sounds from Steve's police scanner. 54 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,000 A camera fell over without explanation. 55 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 It just took a header right off the tripod and landed. 56 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 And there were a number of unusual equipment failures. 57 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:44,000 It's fall now, a little more than six months since that first visit and there's a change in the wind. 58 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,000 But inside, I found there's been no change in the disturbing haunting activity. 59 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 How often are things happening in this house? 60 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Every single night. 61 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Every night? 62 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Every single night. 63 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,000 And Steve and Beth can no longer shelter their boys from the paranormal phenomena. 64 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Stephen, what kinds of stuff, strange stuff have you seen around your house? 65 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Lights, shadows in my room. 66 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:20,000 When I was watching TV, the TV kept going on and off and just strange things. 67 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Why do you stay here with your kids and with these types of things happening? 68 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Because we want it solved and we want to keep our house. 69 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Until you sit in our shoes, you want to understand. 70 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 That's the best way to explain it. 71 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I've been through so much, I'm not going to move. 72 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Steve believes that if the family moves, the entity, as captured in these photos, wins. 73 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:49,000 He and Beth have spent more than $30,000 on surveillance equipment and other high-tech devices, searching for an explanation. 74 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:58,000 But when sighting suggested an in-depth psychic investigation, the family who said they would try anything wanted to sleep on it. 75 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 The next morning, they agreed. 76 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Peter James is coming here. 77 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 What are you hoping he can do or tell you? 78 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,000 I'm a little bit more open-minded than he is as far as believing some things from the spiritual world. 79 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:18,000 But I hope that what he can do is explain some things that are happening. 80 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Peter James has been given no information about what's transpired in the Lee home. 81 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,000 But as soon as he steps out of the car, Peter senses why we've brought him here. 82 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,000 There's a lot of death around here. There is a lot of activity here. 83 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Inside, Steve keeps his distance as Peter begins his survey. 84 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Who's here? Identify yourself. 85 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Peter is immediately drawn upstairs to the master bedroom. 86 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:54,000 During our previous sightings investigation, paranormal researchers identified this bedroom as one of three significant areas of haunting activity. 87 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Right here. Feel it? Something just touched me there. 88 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Feel it? 89 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I feel cold. 90 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 It's a cold spot. 91 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I also feel it right here. 92 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 It's a cold spot. 93 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:08,000 And when Peter begins to feel the pull of an energy vortex, the Lees begin to listen. 94 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:17,000 But it feels like someone has their arms around my legs right now. 95 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 And I'm chilled to the bone right now. 96 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Then Peter begins to feel an overpowering presence of something chemical or medicinal in the air. 97 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 He believes this has a connection to the haunting. 98 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,000 It's a psychic impression that catches Steve completely by surprise. 99 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,000 There's a chemical smell. I smell something old like... 100 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 You get a new smell? 101 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 I get chills. 102 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:47,000 When Peter feels he's connected with the entity responsible for the haunting, he proposes a name. 103 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 How's the name of Howard? 104 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:55,000 The old, you know, the Howard one, there's no... I mean, that's so personal between us and Sun Real. 105 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 There's no possible way on God's earth he couldn't have known anyone. 106 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Do you ever feel that Howard is trying to protect you? 107 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Yes. Very much so. 108 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Because that's what you're at, didn't it? 109 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Yeah. 110 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Does that make sense to you? 111 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Yeah. 112 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Yeah. 113 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 That's what I said. 114 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 That's the psychic thing. 115 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 That's the psychic thing. 116 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 That's the psychic thing. 117 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Very much so. 118 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 But Peter can't seem to take a break from the psychic impressions flooding his mind. 119 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Wait, is there anyone around here that was a pharmacist? 120 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 That's too much in there. 121 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Yes or no? Yes or no? Tell me. 122 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Howard was very involved in that kind of stuff. 123 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Beth, who is Howard? 124 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:42,000 I have a little adopted granddaddy here in town that I have guardianship of that we've taken care of for like 10 years now or more. 125 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 And his name is Howard. 126 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:53,000 And he had a son that we did not know, but that he died in the 60s of a drug overdose. 127 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:01,000 And his best friend's dad was a doctor and into pharmacist work and they would steal prescriptions. 128 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:08,000 The son's name is Howard Jr., the Howard that Peter has felt so strongly in the Lee home. 129 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Peter returns to the bedroom to try to make contact. 130 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 There's that chemical smell again. 131 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 And you know what? 132 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I believe that Howard is with me right now. 133 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 He's very protective of them. 134 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 And, but I... 135 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Actually, no, wait, I smell it this time. 136 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Smell it? Yes, I do smell something. 137 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 A burning kind of chemical? 138 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Howard is here. 139 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Peter says that Howard has entered through the energy vortex. 140 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Right in here. 141 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Right there? 142 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Yeah. 143 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Peter believes it's a rip in the fabric of time that allows spirits to move from their plane into ours. 144 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 They're coming through, look, right here. 145 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Peter feels that Howard Jr. wants to make contact with the Lees because of their connection to his father. 146 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Howard has unfinished business on earth and feels that the Lees can help him communicate that he did not die of a drug overdose. 147 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 We're talking murder. 148 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Yeah. 149 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:13,000 And this is what I really feel, why he's here and why he's trying to convey this message to me now. 150 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,000 To make the haunting stop, Peter says the Lees must appease Howard. 151 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,000 And in fact, they are finding many suspicious circumstances surrounding Howard's death. 152 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Well, I guess I'm a little bit more open-minded about it now. 153 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 I mean, there's things that there's no way he could have known. 154 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I mean, there's just no way on God's earth he could have known. 155 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 I guess I have to believe now. 156 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Before he left, Peter reassured the Lees that Howard is not a vindictive entity 157 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:47,000 and that he may actually be protecting the family from other spirits who have squeezed through the vortex. 158 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:53,000 The Lees hope that if they can put one spirit to rest, the others may soon follow. 159 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:00,000 The Lees family believes that Peter James has gotten closer to the source of the haunting activity than any other paranormal investigator. 160 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 But both Peter and the Lees feel that his work there is not complete. 161 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 We hope to bring you more from the house on a future broadcast. 162 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Next, the miraculous link between a kidnapped girl and her little sister. 163 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Later, searching for the truth in the mysterious UFO crash at Shag Harbor. 164 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 According to a Time Magazine survey, more than two out of three Americans believe in angels. 165 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Among them, the Skidmore family of Mesa, Arizona. 166 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:38,000 But simple statistics can't begin to measure the power that the Skidmore's belief in angels has had on their lives. 167 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,000 It was a belief that was sorely tested on the day three-year-old Sarah disappeared. 168 00:13:43,000 --> 00:14:03,000 In the fall of 1986, the desert quiet and tranquillity of Mesa, Arizona seemed like nothing more than a barrage. 169 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:09,000 The family town was rocked by the kidnapping of one of its own, three-year-old Sarah Skidmore. 170 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:20,000 She was kind of a bouncy little kid, always in the trouble and always jumping on, you know, always wanting hugs and kisses and jumping on you and mollying you. 171 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 And she was always fun. 172 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:29,000 The day that Sarah was kidnapped, everything changed. Everything was different. 173 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 It was just unimaginable. 174 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:44,000 On Tuesday, October 7th, 1986, Rhonda Skidmore received an urgent call from her five-year-old son, Robert's school. 175 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 I had to go to the school to help Robert. 176 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 And so I took some things into the school and I left my little kids in the car. 177 00:14:52,000 --> 00:15:08,000 When I came back, the little boy in the car that had been babysitting, I said, a man took Sarah out of the car and he was serious. 178 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 And I looked around and she was nowhere. 179 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,000 For the first 48 hours, state police conducted an exhaustive search for Sarah and her kidnapper. 180 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,000 He was described by an eyewitness as a heavy-set bearded man wearing a baseball cap. 181 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,000 After Sarah disappeared, our other children were questioning, wondering where she was, asking if she was going to get some dinner. 182 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:38,000 What is Sarah having for dinner tonight? Is Sarah hungry? Where is Sarah going to sleep? She doesn't have her pajamas. 183 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Robert went to the front door and just screamed, Sarah, Sarah, trying to call her home. 184 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:54,000 And he did that until his voice was totally spent. 185 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:12,000 After two days, the authorities narrowed their search. There were indications that Sarah's kidnapper may have retreated into the harsh desert backcountry, where there was no water and no shelter from the elements. 186 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:20,000 This incident occurred in fall time, which in Arizona we see our greatest extremes, the extreme heat, the extreme cold. 187 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Children lose heat and become dehydrated very quickly. And it can even progress to a point of unconsciousness, what we call heat stroke, and a large percent of those patients could die. 188 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,000 On day three, there was an unusually violent thunderstorm. 189 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,000 We actually had one news reporter say, how will you feel when they find her dead body? 190 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:54,000 The next morning dawned clear and calm. The skidmoors were praying for a miracle. Zane Bingham did not hear the prayers, but he answered them. 191 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:07,000 I was hunting quail, I hit one. Upon retrieving it, walking up to where it was laying, I picked it up, looked across the wash to the left, where the cover, the rest of the cover I had flown to. 192 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:19,000 And upon doing so, I saw her in the wash looking at me. The closer I got to her, I noticed that she had been out there apparently for a while because she had lots of scratches all over her legs, her arms and her legs. 193 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:27,000 She wasn't walking very good because she was barefooted. Her feet were tore up. And I asked her if she wanted me to carry her, and she replied yes. 194 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,000 It amazed me that she wasn't crying or whining about nothing, not at all. 195 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Bingham rushed Sarah to the nearest Sheriff's Station. She was immediately airlifted to Lutheran Hospital in Mesa. 196 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Sarah had been abandoned in the desert by her kidnapper, and had spent three days and nights in the desert without food or water. 197 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:52,000 They were very amazed that she survived that Thursday night because it was so cold and it was so windy. 198 00:17:52,000 --> 00:18:03,000 And they said that the exposure should have put her in a coma because of her weakened condition she should not have been able to survive it. 199 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Doctors pronounced Sarah's recovery a miracle. A few days later, Sarah herself offered a mysterious clue to her miraculous survival. 200 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:18,000 She didn't really react to us. She recognized this and just kind of stared at us. 201 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,000 And finally she said, I saw Heather playing. Heather's her two-year-old younger sister. 202 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,000 And that's all she said really so far. 203 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 She said, what? 204 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 She hasn't said anything other than, I saw Heather playing. 205 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Do you know what she meant by that? 206 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 We don't know. 207 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Heather was two years old at the time and could not have been playing in the desert alone. 208 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:55,000 The meaning of Sarah's mysterious vision became clear when she began revealing more details of her abduction and the ordeal that began when Sarah's kidnapper abandoned her in the desert. 209 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:03,000 She mentioned that she was really, really hungry, really, really thirsty, and her feet hurt because of all the cactus thorns. 210 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,000 And then she started talking about the little girl that she saw in the desert. 211 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,000 She had blonde hair and blueish eyes. 212 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:22,000 And she was in white clothes and her hair was about shoulder length a little longer. 213 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:30,000 And she hadn't grown around her and she wasn't standing on the ground. 214 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,000 She was kind of up in the air. 215 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,000 I felt like she was telling me it'd be all right and that I'd be okay. 216 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Sarah was more than a mile from the nearest road, but somehow she found her way to safety by following the angelic vision. 217 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:57,000 She was walking and she saw the little spirit standing there and it caused her to turn and walk a different direction. 218 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000 And when she walked the other direction, then that's when she found the hunter. 219 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,000 And she felt like that that helped her go the right way. 220 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:16,000 A year later, Rhonda Skidmore gave birth to her fifth child, a baby girl named Jessica. 221 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:25,000 When Jessica was three years old, Sarah looked at her baby sister and suddenly realized that it was Jessica, not Heather, who had been her angel. 222 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Sarah just was watching Jessica and she said, I feel like Jessica was the one that was in the desert when I needed the help. 223 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:45,000 I think it was me. I believe my sister, I was her angel. 224 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:52,000 The Skidmore's religious belief in pre-born spirits is gaining a lot of attention among paranormal researchers. 225 00:20:52,000 --> 00:21:04,000 After her own encounter with what she believed was a pre-born spirit, Sarah Hines, educator, author and mother of nine, began compiling similar case studies in her book, Coming from the Light. 226 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,000 I found this belief in a pre-moral existence prevalent in a variety of cultures. 227 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:22,000 When these unborn spirits or unborn souls make their appearance known, they're generally there to deliver a message. 228 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:28,000 And the most prevalent message is that it's time for them to come to Earth. 229 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:36,000 During her research, Hines contacted Paul Perry, a best-selling author and journalist who is an acknowledged expert in near-death experience. 230 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Hines and Perry compared case studies and found an astonishing link. 231 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Many survivors of the near-death experience report seeing not only their past, but also spirit beings waiting to be born. 232 00:21:49,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Many people who see pre-born spirits in the course of a near-death experience, when they come back, they describe these as being very comforting to see. 233 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Sarah truly feels that her unborn sister, Jessica, was the guardian angel that protected her when she was in danger. 234 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:23,000 With the loving support of her family, 12-year-old Sarah Skidmore has healed well from her ordeal in the desert, but she still carries with her clear memories of her miraculous helper. 235 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:37,000 I still think Jessica is my angel because I think that she must love me and I think I love her more just because of what has happened. 236 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Sarah Skidmore's recovery in the Arizona desert is a reminder that miracles do occur. 237 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 It's also a reminder that it only takes a moment for a child to disappear. 238 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Next, the latest word on farming body parts, how food was making neighborhoods safer, and later getting beneath the surface of the Shag Harbor mystery. 239 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Here are some of the stories Sightings is following in the news. 240 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:17,000 The latest crime figures just out from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are encouraging the rate and actual number of violent crimes are down. 241 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Factors contributing to the decrease include neighborhood watch programs, better policing, and if you talk to one group in New Orleans, voodoo. 242 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:41,000 In New Orleans, Louisiana, residents in Bywater, a neighborhood perched at the edge of the French Quarter, saw that their historic community was caught in a downward spiral of crime and drug abuse. 243 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:49,000 But people here have not stood idly by. Instead, they have turned to an old New Orleans tradition. They've turned to voodoo. 244 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:56,000 It just seemed to me that we needed to go to a higher authority. It was not going to do us any good to just get angry and feel helpless. 245 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Sally Ann Glassman has been a student and practitioner of the voodoo religion for more than 20 years. 246 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:11,000 She suggested to her neighbors that they hold a public ceremony to call forth what is known in voodoo as Ogoun, the God of War. 247 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:18,000 It was an effort to rid the neighborhood of evil forces, and more than 150 people attended the evening ceremony. 248 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:26,000 At first, a lot of people, especially the criminals out, were very, you know, stay away from me, get away from me. I don't want you near me with that. 249 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:33,000 They're scared of the police. They respect the Loas. They've grown up around it as part of the culture here. 250 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,000 All their lives, their grandmothers have talked about it, and moms and dads have talked about it. There's a healthy respect for it. 251 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Since the first ceremony on August 17, 1995, Glassman has continued to lead weekly rituals to honor Ogoun and other spirits called Loas. 252 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Recent crime statistics seem to add credence to her claims that crime is down. 253 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:05,000 The crime rate has dropped remarkably from about 50 robberies a month of her to 6 to 8 robberies a month. It's a big difference. 254 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:13,000 While the New Orleans Police Department will not comment on Finewater's unique approach to neighborhood watch, they can't argue with its apparent success. 255 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:25,000 At least, at the very least, everyone knows that everyone else was willing to hang on to hope and to take this sort of action or any sort of action and to work together. 256 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000 That's a bonding experience. That's what community is supposed to be about. 257 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:45,000 In Boston, Massachusetts, researchers are debating the medical merits and ethical consequences of the world's first bioengineered human body part grown on the back of a laboratory mouse. 258 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Well, I first saw this. I was amazed because here we are. We're growing human tissue on a mouse and it's got the shape of an organ. I've never seen anything like this before. 259 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:06,000 The ear was constructed from biodegradable fibers and human cartilage cells donated by the intended recipient. It was then implanted under the skin of a hairless mouse where it took shape. 260 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 The ear will be ready for human transplantation in two years. 261 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:17,000 We're going to start with simple things first. Replacing the skin of somebody who's been severely burned, fixing worn-out knees. 262 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:24,000 After that, we're going to move on to more complex organs and start replacing those. 263 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,000 We've got a long way to go before we can farm a body. 264 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:37,000 For doctors and others concerned with medical ethics, the dilemma is not when will mass body part farming begin, but should it? 265 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:53,000 What are the limits to which we are going to go to fix people? Do we want to put our resources into replacing organs, replacing pieces of people, or do we want to put our resources into keeping people healthy in the first place? 266 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:08,000 You could say that tiny Rachel Nevada is the town that aliens built. Rachel has become the unofficial watering hole for amateur ufologists eager for a close encounter of any kind. 267 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:20,000 And in September 1995, the Nevada State Assembly passed a bill to officially redesign Rachel's main drag, State Highway 375, as Nevada's extraterrestrial alien highway. 268 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:32,000 It's an apt name, legislators argued, for a road at borders Area 51, the refuted site for many top-secret government spacecraft projects, and the site of frequent UFO sightings. 269 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:45,000 After a push from legislators and the State Tourism Office, the Nevada State Transportation Board has agreed to put up new extraterrestrial highway signs beginning in the spring of 1996. 270 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Governor Bob Miller has suggested that the signs be placed flat on the ground so that aliens can see them and know where to land. 271 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,000 We'll have more stories from the news next time. Now, here's what's coming up on sightings. 272 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Will Shag Harbor give up the secret of what crashed here nearly 30 years ago? 273 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Labor, he's the father of the theory that revolutionized our view of a world he calls Gaia. 274 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 The Earth has properties like those of the living organisms. 275 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Recently, we brought you a report on the mysterious crash of a suspected UFO in Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia. 276 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Working with Canadian researcher Chris Stiles, sightings has uncovered startling new government reports and has interviewed key eyewitnesses. 277 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:45,000 There's enough evidence here to warrant a new kind of sightings investigation, our first UFO salvage operation. 278 00:28:49,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Whatever crashed into Shag Harbor nearly 30 years ago was seen by many eyewitnesses who have all come forward with strikingly similar descriptions of the incident. 279 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:14,000 An unusual object described as being 60 feet in diameter with four bright white lights was seen to hover in the sky over the Shag Harbor area, tilted at a 45 degree angle, and then dropped into the sky at the surface of the water. 280 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Eventually, the Coast Guard, Rescue Coordination Center, Navy and RCAF were brought into the search effort for the object responsible. 281 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Chris Stiles has conducted an exhaustive search for documentation regarding the historic and mysterious crash of October 4, 1967. 282 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 He has found a significant government paper trail. 283 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000 The Navy did have a strong expectation of finding artifacts. 284 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,000 In the document, it actually names a scientific consultant who was on standby to receive debris. 285 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,000 The search conducted by the Navy concentrated in this area. 286 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,000 In October 1995, sightings launched its first ever salvage operation under the direction of Chris Stiles. 287 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Our goal was to locate and retrieve any pieces of UFO wreckage large enough to have resisted the forceful tides and currents in Shag Harbor. 288 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:15,000 By all accounts, the odds were stacked against us, but this operation would offer a unique opportunity to apply scientific methods to an incident right with rumor and conjecture. 289 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,000 If debris could be found, our team would fight. 290 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:33,000 We hope to take the searched areas beyond the former military search and perhaps check out some of these target detections and the impact site, which was actually outside of the search already conducted by the Navy. 291 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:45,000 28 years have passed since the crash at Shag Harbor. Time was not on our side, but state-of-the-art detection equipment unimagined in 1967 would improve our chances. 292 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,000 Prepare for tracking sequence at heading 159, over. 293 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:59,000 There is 500 kilohertz digital side scan sonar for seabed profiling and target detection. 294 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Aerial trajectory plotting. 295 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Roger survey one, commencing sequence over. 296 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:17,000 A towed array GEM magnetometer for underwater metal detection and a GPS satellite tracking system to pinpoint potential targets. 297 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Our intention was to scan and search three main areas of the ocean floor in the waters off Shag Harbor. 298 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:33,000 These areas corresponded to eyewitness recollections and coordinates taken from a document reporting where the initial government searched of place in 1967. 299 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Sonar buoy drops out of nearby Canadian forces base Greenwood and the magnetic anomaly detection grid at the nearby Shelburne base, which was the coordination center for submarine detection in the Atlantic, led the authorities to believe that perhaps the largely intact object was still moving under the water. 300 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000 But where it came to rest remains a mystery. 301 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Reports that wreckage was recovered from Shag Harbor on the night of the crash dictate that we begin our operation there. 302 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Man at the base had told me that it was probably the most intense thing next to the Cuban missile crisis which left the base on alert for 34 days. 303 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,000 The sightings investigation heads out to sea after months of onshore planning. 304 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:27,000 The three targeted areas are scanned for potential pieces of wreckage called targets and each target is given a priority designation. 305 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:37,000 We were able to lay down an extensive grid pattern and pick up numerous target detections which we gave an assessment value for high strangeness. 306 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Very simple system one, two or three. 307 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:48,000 The initial search shows no high priority targets in area one, the section of ocean shore closest to the Nova Scotia mainland. 308 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Rather than send divers down to investigate lower priority targets, the team agrees to move further out and begin a grid pattern search of area two. 309 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Attention bridge, this is control. We have a strong target return. 310 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Target detection is one thing going down and confirming what the target is is much harder to repeat. 311 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,000 We were actually getting returns of some of the very large kelp beds that produced shadows and images that were misleading. 312 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:25,000 The environment presents perhaps the main challenge in doing a thorough search. Extreme current conditions are almost constant. 313 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 What was the current like down there? 314 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 The current is going to get worse. 315 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Conditions are deteriorating. It's my feeling that we should move on and perhaps check other targets. 316 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,000 But the divers press on, eliminating all of the potential targets in area two. 317 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 The search then moves on to the deeper waters of area three. 318 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:49,000 In area three, there are a number of high priority targets worthy of investigation. 319 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:56,000 The divers begin a systematic search, working into the night when a particularly promising spike hits on radar. 320 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,000 In the control room, the team watches the divers progress. 321 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Individual propulsion systems and high powered underwater lights assist the divers who are fighting increasing tidal currents 322 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 and a backwash of silt from the ocean floor. 323 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,000 As the divers close in on their bearing, they realize that the ocean currents are distorting sonar readings. 324 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Giving a high priority signal to nothing more than an unusual rock formation. 325 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,000 The team is disappointed, but Chris Stiles is undaunted. 326 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:47,000 He has eliminated three crash sites and can now move forward to another area where some government eyewitnesses have told him UFO debris may still be found. 327 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,000 I've spoken with several of the divers in the past and other support naval personnel that were involved in this. 328 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:59,000 And early on they told me the story of the Shelburne connection and it just keeps resurfacing, resurfacing. 329 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 It's a story that won't go away. 330 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000 That story, when sightings continues. 331 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Next, more from our Shag Harbor investigation and later, the future of planet Earth. 332 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,000 There's no possibility of fighting back. There's only consequences. 333 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Admittedly, sightings is searching for an extraterrestrial needle in a haystack by diving beneath the waters of Shag Harbor, Nova Scotia. 334 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Even if the APRO document is a roadmap to a submerged UFO, we don't know what the craft is made out of. 335 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Would UFO debris rust, melt, or could it be that someone has simply beaten us to it? 336 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:55,000 When the sighting search and salvage operation failed to turn up UFO wreckage or debris in three significant areas off the coast of Shag Harbor, 337 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Chris Stiles did not give up his investigation. 338 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:07,000 He feels there is simply too much information about the mysterious UFO crash of October 4, 1967 to abandon his search for the truth. 339 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,000 First, there was consistent testimony from credible eyewitnesses. 340 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,000 We see lights moving through the sky that we talked to be an airplane at first. 341 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,000 And there was four in segments, one would come on, then two, and three, and four. 342 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:32,000 There was reddish-orange in color and they seemed to be on about a 45 degree incline and the lights seemed to be going in the downward motion. 343 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:39,000 This thing headed down, crashed on the water, and at that time all the lights went off and one other light came on a few minutes later, 344 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 and that's the light that was there when I arrived on the scene. 345 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Royal Canadian Mounted Police Officer Ron Pond not only saw the Shag Harbor UFO, he also interviewed eyewitnesses at the scene. 346 00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:02,000 There were witnesses coming from a variety of directions and in different locations, so there was no way that there was a conspiracy or any kind of an attempt to mislead anybody. 347 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000 It was definitely something that came down in the water. 348 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,000 In addition to credible eyewitnesses, Chris Stiles has uncovered a trail of documentation, 349 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:23,000 leading him to conclude that the U.S. and Canadian governments knew about and monitored the Shag Harbor UFO. 350 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:29,000 The more we find, the more there is, you know, I mean, sources of even the paper trail-ness have hardly dried up. 351 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:37,000 And there was this exclusive interview with a member of the Canadian military who had been debriefed as part of a Shag Harbor naval recovery operation. 352 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:45,000 I was told that it had hit the water, crash landed in trouble, and had actually moved under water. 353 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:52,000 And I think that that was one of the more interesting points that I found of the whole story, because this thing was not only aerodynamic, it was hydro. 354 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Dynamic also has had the capacity to travel in two mediums. 355 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:03,000 According to this source, the UFO continued traveling underwater and finally came to rest several miles from the impact site. 356 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Near where the UFO had moved, there was a high-top secret listening post for submarine detection. 357 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:19,000 This claim of a second location of an unidentified flying object resting on the bottom, somewhere off government point in the water, 358 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:26,000 is very interesting because this location was the spot where Canadian forces stationed Shelburne was located. 359 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:33,000 It is quite possible that there is something laying down there, somewhere between the crash site, the site that had moved. 360 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:39,000 It's hard to move that amount of physical energy around and not leave some sort of a trace. 361 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Because sightings initial scientific search of Shag Harbor failed to turn up any debris, Stiles is now exploring the possibility that the crash site was 25 miles to the north, near Shelburne. 362 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,000 It was here that a second Navy dive reportedly took place on the night of the crash. 363 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:07,000 When I spoke to the divers and support personnel early on, they told me that at the Shelburne and into the operation where they sat over this craft for a week, 364 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 that it was on the bottom and that there was still activity in it. 365 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Furthermore, there was a second craft there which was lending assistance. 366 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000 They believed that this was a vehicle of extraterrestrial origin. 367 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000 These men had lengthy experience. 368 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,000 Their commanding officer would debrief them and tell them not to open the mouth. 369 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 The story would not be discussed again. 370 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,000 I can only imagine that he would assign some people to ensure that those people do keep quiet. 371 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Although he has uncovered a mountain of documentation confirming civilian sightings of the Shag Harbor UFO, Stiles has found almost nothing on paper to confirm military operations in Shelburne or government point. 372 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000 I've looked at some unique strategies and tried to be creative. 373 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:56,000 For example, off government point there's an area called the Knot Island which has a manned lighthouse. 374 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:05,000 I attempted to obtain the lighthouse logs thinking that perhaps any naval operation that kept ships in the area for seven days would show in the light keepers records. 375 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 These were not forthcoming. 376 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Attempts with the Coast Guard to get these seem to indicate that these records were lost. 377 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000 It seems that I could get earlier records and those after by October's were missing. 378 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:25,000 It is Stiles' belief that considerable work remains to be done in the Shag Harbor UFO investigation. 379 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Raw data needs to be analyzed further and uncharted target sites offshore must be scanned. 380 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:41,000 The elimination of three potential impact sites during the first sighting's salvage operation is only the first step to what may be a very long road. 381 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Shag Harbor is still a mystery however I feel that this case will reveal a lot about the nature of the UFO phenomena and may have some answers that even challenge our established belief systems. 382 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:03,000 It's only been since late 1994 that the Canadian military has allowed civilian operations in the waters off government point. 383 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Chris Stiles now plans to focus future operations in the area near Shelburne, Nova Scotia. 384 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Next, what can we learn from James Lovelock's Gaia theory? 385 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,000 The man and woman in the street understand Gaia far better than my colleagues do. 386 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,000 On past programs we've introduced you to a number of people who support the Gaia theory. 387 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000 That the earth is an organism with its own intelligence. 388 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Now sighting's correspondent Carla Wall interviews the father of the Gaia theory. 389 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 James Lovelock. 390 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,000 It's been more than 20 years since he first introduced his groundbreaking Gaia hypothesis. 391 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Today inventor scientist James Lovelock and his wife Sandy live and work on a 35 acre estate in the Cornish Highlands which he's preserving as a wildlife habitat. 392 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,000 How did you come up with the Gaia theory? 393 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Well I was very fortunate in 1961. I got a letter from the director of space flight operations of NASA. 394 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:16,000 They wanted to use my gadgets, these sensitive devices, for analyzing the lunar soil to see if it would be safe for astronauts to go there. 395 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,000 But it wasn't long before I became interested in the next big step which was to go to Mars. 396 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,000 And the question, how do you find, is there's life there? 397 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Lovelock determined that Mars was almost certainly lifeless because its atmospheric composition was static in contrast to Earth's composite parts which are highly volatile. 398 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:47,000 So I then thought, well if it's an atmosphere like that, highly unstable, something must be keeping it constant because it couldn't stay constant on its own. 399 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:54,000 And that set me thinking about a regulating system at the Earth's surface which presumably was life itself. 400 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,000 And then this idea of Gaia was born in my mind. 401 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Since then Lovelock's Gaia theory has been embraced and embellished on by scientists, environmentalists and new age philosophers who believe Gaia is a sentient being with a capacity for intelligence, emotion, even vengeance. 402 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:23,000 I don't really now regard the Earth as a living organism. I think in the early days of Gaia we used the term the Earth is alive metaphorically. 403 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,000 What we meant was that the Earth has properties like those of a living organism. 404 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,000 It's able to regulate its temperature and it's able to regulate its chemistry and that was all we meant by it. 405 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:46,000 What do you think of the theories that are now coming out? People call it Gaia's revenge, that the Earth is fighting back with diseases like AIDS and Ebola and getting rid of the human parasite. 406 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:58,000 Oh I don't like it one bit. Gaia is in no way sentient. Not at all. There's no possibility of fighting back. There's only consequences. 407 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:12,000 While he does not regard the Earth as an angry, vengeful planet, the father of the Gaia theory is deeply concerned by humankind's apparent disregard for the delicate balance between our planet and her life-sustaining atmosphere. 408 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,000 What is the greatest danger to us right now? 409 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:30,000 If you're talking about human dangers, we're now talking in terms of hundreds of years, not billions or billions of years, there's a distinct possibility that a large chunk of ice which is supported above the water by a ridge in Antarctica 410 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:45,000 It's called the West Antarctica Gai-Shin, may slip off into the ocean. It did so 120,000 years ago during another inter-placing and if we go on warming the Earth, adding CO2 and things, it may well slip off again. 411 00:44:45,000 --> 00:45:02,000 When it does, it's estimated there will be a maximum rise of sea level of about 15 feet, but even if only a part of it drops, there's only a rise of 5 feet of sea level. This would be enough to take out many of the major cities around the world. 412 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:11,000 London would certainly go, New York would be gravely under threat, Houston would probably go, Miami, all sorts of cities. 413 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Is there anything that we can do to slow that process or is it inevitable? 414 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:25,000 I honestly don't think as much we can do to slow it. I think it would be too difficult to get all of the nations of the world together to say we're going to stop burning fossil fuels. 415 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:37,000 And we'll just have to hope that the cooling off towards the next ice age offsets the global warming due to the CO2 increase, but it's not a very hopeful thought. 416 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:48,000 But Lovelock does find hope in the fact that the average person's environmental awareness is much greater now than it was when he first proposed the Gaia theory nearly 25 years ago. 417 00:45:48,000 --> 00:46:02,000 I've always found that the man and woman in the street understand Gaia far better than my colleagues do. The rules are quite simple. If you live well with the environment and improve it, you improve the chances for your progeny. 418 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:12,000 And that means according to Darwin, your species will survive and flourish. If you do think that it's bad for the environment, your species is doomed. 419 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:23,000 The overriding message in Lovelock's work is that Gaia is tough, but not indestructible. Gaia can heal if we can just stop making her sicker. 420 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000 If you've had a paranormal experience, please write to us at Sightings. 421 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000 Sightings can also be contacted at America Online at keyword Sightings. 422 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:44,000 At the Sightings forum, download images, sounds and quick time clips. 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